Suggestion: Stormy Storm Snowmann at 280 keys

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~265 keys

stormy

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Sale 1: 280k

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198061533354#!/compare/1548892800/1548979200

GE Rack + 30k

https://imgur.com/a/idEO7Np

Compares show 24, confirmation from seller at 30k

credit to both paradise and freecss

GE rack indate at 250

250 + 30 = 280

A sale you missed: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198269395083#!/compare/1542412800/1542499200

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198134512931#!/compare/1542412800/1542499200

Seems like sold for a Sunbeams War Pig (435 keys)

Mini for Beams War Pig: https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5c64cfa644325a25d636cd94

Freecs had it posted as a quicksell on backpack.tf while selling with a 350 b/o.

Furthermore, Squashington has a buy order on backpack that's currently inactive for 250 and I can literally quicksell swap this snowmann on a trading site for a 250 key knife which is near your suggestion price. http://prntscr.com/mjvw69

I also have had offers ~ 350-400 in the past couple of days I owned this.

-Screenshot shows was not a quicksell, according to seller. Unless you can get proof of both b/o and seller listing (which would be discredited anyway considering he had it past quicksell time frame), this stands.

-250 keys is not 280 keys

-Offers don't affect suggestions

kek, you quicksell that rack for 230 and you add 30 and you got 260 keys which is literally the quicksell price.

This involves quickselling the rack, which isn't related to this suggestion whatsoever.

oh and about the screenshots. All you have is a chat post-trade asking if it was. Where are your screenshots of the listing at normal price? Oh, that's right. I forgot that we just take people's word to decide prices here. xD

You're the one countering the suggestion, bring proof to show that it wasn't a quicksell. All I have right now is seller claiming it wasn't a quicksell, and buyer saying it is with no proof to back the claim.

If I were to close this right now, that would be taking your word to decide prices here, so unsure of what your point is.

Offers can affect suggestions.

That snowmann is overpriced, last suggestion was accepted with 1 sale vs all the rest sales in the range 180/230 keys. Indeed Beaser tried to repriced the misty skull blighted beeak using the snowmann at 420, and he failed. And unusual prices are not based on the offers that ppl send you.

https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5bd27d7644325a5bd23aa609

https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5b5e4cd9cf6c75660846a6aa

so you're all saying that previous offers and active offers are not relevant. But if I can currently trade my snowmann for 350-400, and I can btw, and if I actually do. Wouldn't that make this entire suggestion invalid?

Barracuda, you're referring to a 4 month old suggestion (and the last one made) in which it actually sold for a c. moon peak and the beak is completely irrelevant but you have had that vendetta ever since Beaser owned this snowmann as I can see from past suggestions.

As for the claim that this wasn't a quicksell. If you look into the history of this snowmann you'll see that Freecs is the person who quickbought the snowmann off scm for 200 keys and quicksold it to me for a ge rack and 30 keys but never quicksold the rack because he obviously wants the extra 15 keys. To base the price of this 1 of 1 snowmann on this one sale, while I can actively sell it right now for 260 pure in csgo, 250 to squashington, and 350-400 with active offers (which I will not take just to invalidate your suggestion because I value my hat), would be absolutely ridiculous tbh.

How about you actually sell it for that price , which you apparently 'can' , and then try making a point about the suggestion being wrong.

Don't unnecessarily comment to prevent an overpriced hat which you happen to own from going down to an a more reasonable price.

Why would I trash my hat's value to invalidate a "suggestion" on a website that "suggests" prices? If I'm trading my hat, I'm trading it for something I want not for some random hats to make my clear point.

example: https://prnt.sc/mk1rnj

Then just deal with the "suggested" don't shittalk a suggestion just because you don't like it.

and speaking of reasonable, just because in your opinion this hat's price is unreasonable doesn't mean it has to go down to meet your standard of "reasonable", which is completely unreasonable imo given the facts. I'm not "shit talking" either, I just proved to you that your suggestion and entire basis is invalid and you can't even comeback. Why would I make that trade? For you to be content that I rushed my sale for less than what my hat is worth and can be traded for? Speak of unreasonable.

Ok , looks like j pretty much what I was gonna say .

Hat’s value is what you buy it for. No evidence of being a quicksell, and you paid 280. Keeping this at 280 until you can actually bring in evidence to the contrary

I just did and you disregarded it because you can't even read.

"I can quicksell it" and a screenshot is not enough.

Your opinions here are irrelevant, because you are the current owner: you want to stay with that high 420 keys price in order to get profit, a good example of manipulation, rejecting the evidence in this suggestion. Up to now you are unable to proove

If that info is pure QS

fortunately, they're not my opinions, I have facts to back up what I'm saying and you're disregarding based on your personal opinions. Who's manipulating here huh?

There are many sales for less than 230 keys and you insist to keep that 420 keys price using that c.moon peak (outlier).

I said again 1 sale (c.moon paeak) vs many sales at 280/230/200... you can't support your outlier anymore, 100% evidence and not "opinions/facts"

do you even backpack.tf? since when is referring to year old sales and even over 2 month old sales even relevant in current suggestions and why should it be when I provided you with evidence of a potential sale if I just click accept trade for more than your silly suggestion?

This is my last post here:

Im still waiting for your evidence that shows this info (280 keys), is pure quicksale.

280 keys isn't pure quicksale and I never claimed it was. I said his intention was to quicksell a ge rack (230) + 30 keys which was 10 keys over the buy order from squashington at 250 which I don't have screenshots of because I don't live on this site unlike you and your gang. I also provided proof that I can quicksell it for 250 and trade for 350-400 and you're still arguing and being arrogant. Drop the interrogation and witch hunt attitude and go do something useful with your life. It doesn't take much to understand what I have written above and even if I am the current owner of this 1 of 1 snowmann, that doesn't invalidate that they are true and are possibilities that you are not considering.

Ok, iirc when I spoke to you about it, you said it was a quicksell because he ( previous owner ) needed keys desperately. I don't see why he would qs a "420 key" for another item and just 30 keys.

Agreed those she's are invalid but they still sorry the price. You're using 1 outlier sale to be your argument of off

I don't understand how repricing this 30 keys over buy orders for a 1 of 1 hat over 1 sale is logical to be honest. http://prntscr.com/mnc4bg

Again. 280 keys is not 250 keys. That's also a single buy order, no evidence many others would buy at that price.

I showed you evidence earlier in this suggestion.

That would be more evidence towards the KE if anything

May I ask why you aren't including the sunbeams war pig sale?

Seller at 420 for 11 days. Beams war pig is being updated to 435

11 days is nothing. A sale is a sale

so if you had a sale for 500 and a seller at 400 for a year, and a sale at 300: would you range it 300-500?

No, but there's a big difference between 1 year and 11 days.

It would be high here and low there is the point, best excluded

Seller has relisted at 500. This is going to be frustrating to hear, but there is enough uncertainty in price here, I think we have no choice but to wait for more sales. Warpig was actually a warpig+flies stash according the the seller. Two sales that are far apart. As far as we know, both could be outliers here.