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Sale 1:
Sold for 40 keys
Seller: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198847672167#!/compare/1592524800/1592611200
Buyer: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198334357092#!/compare/1592438400/1592611200
https://backpack.tf/item/2765167869
40 keys
Sale 2:
Sold for Scorching Flames Sky High Fly Guy (34.5)
Seller: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199044780296#!/compare/1593993600/1594080000
Buyer: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198097427947#!/compare/1593993600/1594080000
https://backpack.tf/item/2765167869
No B/O at the time
35 keys
Sale 3:
Sold to a bot for 32 keys + some metal
Seller: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198030058573#!/compare/1592265600/1592352000
Buyer: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198363395191#!/compare/1592265600/1592352000
https://backpack.tf/item/7017751287
32 keys
Gambled after selling on marketplace.
Sale 4:
Sold for 31 keys?
Seller: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198305494036#!/compare/1593993600/1594080000
Buyer: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199044780296#!/compare/1593993600/1594080000
https://backpack.tf/item/7717305080
https://i.imgur.com/ACWkBye.png - labelled as 31 on bot.tf
28 keys match on the seller’s end, a further 2 keys that don’t appear on the seller’s end appear on the buyer’s end. I don’t doubt that it sold for the full 31 here.
31 keys
Marketplace Sales:
https://marketplace.tf/items/tf2/139;5;u62
$69.95, May 5th
$69.95, May 27th
$69.99, May 30th
$69.50, June 7th
$60, June 14th
$74.99, July 7th
$74.99, July 11th
$50, July 11th
$77.99, July 25th
https://backpack.tf/item/7017751287 - The $74.99 July 11th sale and either the $50 July 11th sale or the $77.99, July 25th sale
https://backpack.tf/item/4589139770 - July 7th, Erik’s sale
https://i.imgur.com/bAGS8oG.png - Erik confirms
https://backpack.tf/item/2765167869 - Possibly the July 25th sale (refer to down below)
Couldn’t find any other histories.
http://manic.tf/keyprice?at=2020-05-05&price=69.95 - $69.95 / $1.88 = 37.21 keys
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/M19L12L0 - No important B/O
http://manic.tf/keyprice?at=2020-05-27&price=69.95 - $69.95 / $1.92 = 36.43 keys
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/YD158ZQV - No important B/O
http://manic.tf/keyprice?at=2020-05-30&price=69.99 - $69.99 / $1.94 = 36.08 keys
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/4EPQ1KND - No important B/O
http://manic.tf/keyprice?at=2020-06-07&price=69.5 - $69.5 / $1.98 = 35.10 keys
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/466ELWOZ - No important B/O
http://manic.tf/keyprice?at=2020-06-14&price=60 - $60 / $1.99 = 30.15 keys
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/4KV88WP8 - No important B/O
http://manic.tf/keyprice?at=2020-07-07&price=74.99 - $74.99 / $1.98 = 37.87 keys
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/MQ01LVZ3 - No B/O
http://manic.tf/keyprice?at=2020-07-11&price=74.99 - $74.99 / $1.99 = 37.68 keys
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/4EP5N6G2 - No B/O
http://manic.tf/keyprice?at=2020-07-11&price=50 - $50 / $1.99 = 25.13 keys
Would’ve gone to a buy order
http://manic.tf/keyprice?at=2020-07-25&price=77.99 - $77.99 / $1.93 = 40.41 keys
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/MXX781P8 - May have been the 37 key seller (only one of the sellers with a marketplace link), but wouldn’t affect the range if I’m wrong anyways.
After rounding, we have:
25 keys
30 keys
35 keys
36 keys (2x)
37 keys
38 keys (2x)
40 keys
[b]Other Sales:
https://backpack.tf/item/7956087246 (#1 & #2)
https://backpack.tf/item/7017751287 (#3)
https://backpack.tf/item/4589139770 (#4-7)
https://backpack.tf/item/2765167869 (#8-15)
#1
Bulk for Beams Vive La France
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198273936811#!/compare/1590796800/1590883200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198137566942#!/compare/1590796800/1590883200
#2
Untraceable
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198137566942#!/compare/1591142400/1591228800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198139061326#!/compare/1590969600/1591228800
#3
Untraceable
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198074043822#!/compare/1592179200/1592265600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198030058573#!/compare/1592092800/1592179200
#4
Untraceable
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198231711740 - won’t update
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198395025691#!/compare/1586649600/1592092800
#5
Untraceable
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198395025691 - won’t update
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198091502579#!/compare/1592092800/1592179200
Buyer sold on marketplace for $74.99 afterwards.
#6
Untraceable
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198986747837#!/compare/1594080000/1594339200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198074043822#!/compare/1594080000/1594166400
Probably gambled
#7
Untraceable
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198074043822#!/compare/1594080000/1594166400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198176593866#!/compare/1594080000/1594166400
#8
Untraceable
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198100484031#!/compare/1588896000/1589241600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198105087064#!/compare/1589068800/1589241600
#9
Untraceable
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198105087064#!/compare/1589068800/1589241600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198267189538#!/compare/1589155200/1589241600
#10
Untraceable
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198267189538#!/compare/1589587200/1589673600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198106206016#!/compare/1589932800/1590019200
Missing info in the history
#11
Untraceable
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198106206016#!/compare/1590019200/1590105600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198825748033#!/compare/1590019200/1590105600
#12
Bulk for GBH party Phantom
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198825748033#!/compare/1590019200/1590105600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198869506063#!/compare/1590105600/1590192000
#13
Transferred between accounts, broker or something.
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198869506063#!/compare/1591056000/1591142400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198195734346#!/compare/1591142400/1591228800
#14
Untraceable
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198334357092#!/compare/1593561600/1593993600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198305494036#!/compare/1593648000/1593993600
https://i.imgur.com/ACWkBye.png - labelled as 29 keys + 10 ref
#15
Untraceable
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198097427947#!/compare/1594598400/1596067200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198337734785#!/compare/1595635200/1595894400
Sellers/Buyers:
https://i.imgur.com/InOTRBm.png
https://backpack.tf/item/2765167869 - ~32.3 keys
https://backpack.tf/item/4589139770 - ~32.3 keys
https://backpack.tf/item/7956526814 - 45 keys
Buyers as high as 30 keys.
Sales at:
25
30
31
32
35 (2x)
36 (2x)
37
38 (2x)
40 (2x)
25 is an obvious outlier, excluding 25.
Both sellers at ~32 are fairly concerning, but one was only listed about a week ago, the other auto-beat their listing
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/Y807LWPN
Prior to this they were listed at 35
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/Y9Q998D6
I will keep the sales higher than this for now, and re-suggest if necessary later.
The sale at 30 is lower than quickbuyers, but there currently aren’t a whole lot of buyers at 30+, and since we’re including sales much higher than the sellers, it should be fine to set 30 as our low-end.
Taking 30-40.
Seems like 1 of the sellers has sold, not in their inv anymore https://imgur.com/a/NGOiRlM
Market over time:
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/4EPXKX0Q
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/4KV8ND1N
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/MVQXLPNE
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/M19KEZV1
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/YD1XE3PR - buyers are up to ~31 now
Seems like buyers have hovered around 29-32 for the last 2 months, only being over 32 for a short period of time. I would rather do 32 as the low-end here to avoid including sales under buyers, since there isn't a big common trading point there. The sellers under 35 seem to be selling pretty quick, so im not too worried about including all the sales above the current sellers, 40 is a good pure high-end. The lone seller at 32.5 will probably sell soon as well.
32 - 40 should be slightly better here
I personally don't think that, at least the 31 key sale, should be excluded due to buyers that have since the creation of this suggestion, regardless of the status of some of these buy orders several months ago. Sales to buy orders, or sales at buy order price, have been used for a while now, and I haven't had any issues with using them in recent times:
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5f27ddd94243f047484b6f47
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5f1fe40ad8ec133b392c286f
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5f01986a4ef3d748be6592bd
Sales at or under buy orders shouldn't be used unless they are a common trading point. All of those examples had common trading points of 3+ sales at the price at or under buy orders. (many of were bot.tf buys, but you can take those at face value since its impossible to buy with items unless those items are being bought by the same bot at an overall price higher than the buy order, and of course even this buying with items is very, very rare) My point about the buy orders over time is to show that buyers have fluctuated between 29 and 32 recently, and the 1 key increase yesterday is a prime example of this fluctuation.
The sale @ 31 also sold in a bit over a day according to the bot.tf timestamps as well, which even if the buyers hadn't gone up a key would make me want to exclude it anyways. Given the seller at 32, im fine including 32 even though it sold to a bot because the fact the 32 seller has been there for a decent bit of time shows 32 is not a quicksell price currently. Overall, there isn't a common trading point at 30 or 31 so it should be better to use 32 as the low-end for a more conservative drop here.
bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
fine but if i have to re-suggest because buyers jump up to 32 i'm not gonna bother