Suggestion: Arcana Pencil Pusher at 3400 keys

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~5400 keys

arcana

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This suggestion was accepted Sun, 15 Oct 23 19:48:46 +0000 by Eazy Peazy Squeezy Lemons.

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resugg from

https://backpack.tf/suggestion/649f49ce1709f2b2d70348f9

Item

https://backpack.tf/item/2032134778

Sale 1, cash-

Estel bought this + a eorb shotgun for 6640 USD

The price of the pencil was decided to be 6120 USD

https://imgur.com/a/sq7uc94

They agreed to a 1.8 key price but lets just find a key price instead

Fortunately there is an open ref suggestion

https://backpack.tf/suggestion/648698aa543049f1d8096d53

consolidating the data in this sugg, thx eztazi -

140 @ 1.7

194 @ 1.72

878 @ 1.73

1865 @ 1.74

670 @ 1.75

800 @ 1.76

1200 @ 1.79

291 @ 1.82

500 @ 1.83

Just gonna take 1.74 here, recent sales I looked at were on the lower side anyways.

6120/1.74 = 3517

Rounds to 3500

B/o was actually at 3400

https://imgur.com/a/IJgaFe7

capping there

thanks extazi

Sale 2

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198056793885#!/compare/1682899200/1682985600

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198846276257#!/compare/1682899200/1683072000

So many damn minis gonna be needed here

VFB DBD VVF has no useable sales. Ignoring for now, unless mods tell me to mini the rest.

VVF is also duped

not using

Sale 3

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198120347528#!/compare/1680652800/1680825600

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198056793885#!/compare/1680652800/1680825600

Out of date and alot of it is not priceable

not using

Sale 1 should be excluded as it was quicksold (seller listed as “QUICKSELLING”) within a day for more than its listed price. Along with other sales being higher than 3400 keys, which you exclude.

the price is so outdated that raising with a quicksell might be fine tbh, still nearly a 2000 key raise. 3400 more accurately reflects the price than 1500-1865. Up to mods though.

Ill bring the comments from last time mashallah

god damn what a spicy sale

Avatar ★ LVE Lucy (Vaccinator Collector) · posted about an hour ago

I don’t even play engie, but I have to admire a good unusual when I see one.

Avatar ★ Karma Miguel · posted about an hour ago

Sale 2 is at or over 4,000 keys and in-date. Yeah it’s less work to not include it but then why bother taking the time doing mini’s on other suggestions if we can just ignore them when we feel like for suggestions such as this? I always get blasted by mods and price suggesters when I try to exclude sales that need lots of mini’s.

Avatar ★ Braxol Quickselling · posted 33 minutes ago

the spelled vvf cannot be mini'd

duped + spelled.

How would you value it?

Would you mini clean nonspelled?

Clean spelled?

duped nonspelled?

Avatar ★ STEVE · posted 23 minutes ago

Brazen choice of just flat out ignoring 2 other in date sales out of laziness and focusing on your friends' is crazy but I will pretend to be an entourage as well; +1 AMAZING SUGG! WE LOVE ARCANA!

Avatar ★ Littlepudintater · posted 28 minutes ago

💪💪💪💪💪💪

Avatar ★ Joey · posted 23 minutes ago

the other sale was HIGHER so it would be better for my "friend" to include that sale.

Avatar ★ STEVE · posted 23 minutes ago

linked to it so no need

💪💪💪💪💪💪

Sale 2 at a (very) quick glance looks to be higher than 3400. If that sale is truly non-usable then I agree that 3400 is more representative than the current price. Again, this can always be resuggested if/when it resells. - This is a stance we have had on a lot of other suggestions.

It does look like the VF has some new sales:

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198218497692#!/compare/1694131200/1694304000

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198063640894#!/compare/1694131200/1694476800 - Sold for a Divine Sunlight Decorated Veteran + a Duped Cloudy Moon Le Party Phantom + a Demonflame Letch's LED + a Viridescent Peeper Bone Cone

2500 B/O https://gladiator.tf/time-machine?item=Disco%20Beat%20Down%20Virtual%20Viewfinder&at=2023-09-08T23:33:39.000Z

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198056793885#!/compare/1693785600/1693872000

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198218497692#!/compare/1693785600/1693872000 - Sold for a Devilish Diablo Chill Chullo + an Arcana Letch's LEDHarvest Moon Conjurer's Cowl (only sale on the Cowl) + a Time Warp Your Worst Nightmare + a Cloudy Moon Connoisseur's Cap

2300 B/O https://gladiator.tf/time-machine?item=Disco%20Beat%20Down%20Virtual%20Viewfinder&at=2023-09-04T06:57:46.000Z

If you want to have a crack at the Veteran, Phantom, LED, Bone Cone to try and price the VF that would be great.

Gonna hop on this and help with some of the minis

Only one valid sale for the purpose of a mini for the Devilish Diablo Chill Chullo

https://backpack.tf/item/10759042498

https://gladiator.tf/time-machine?item=Devilish%20Diablo%20Chill%20Chullo&at=2023-06-16T20:49:08.000Z

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199032721186#!/compare/1686787200/1686873600

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198316071886#!/compare/1686787200/1686873600

Likely 89 keys

https://backpack.tf/suggestion/65289aac74eee9844a048447 - LED @ 800 keys

https://backpack.tf/suggestion/6528a2b7c47244332402bbd7 - Nightmare @ 260 keys

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198402479834#!/compare/1692057600/1692576000 - Duped cap sold for 170 keys here

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198074621436#!/compare/1692835200/1693440000 - Resold for much less here ~75 which honestly might be incomplete idk

I just realized I was not mining the right sale after seeing the hmoon cowl xwx

~~Adding everything up with buyers as the cowl is ~1700~~

I'll add on a bit later on

https://backpack.tf/item/563167335

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198198689581#!/compare/1696982400/1697068800

Duped phantom dumped for ~630

DF LED only has bulk sales, nothing there

Not really sure if the first sale linked above is usable, or ig both of them at this pt

Yikes. That is unfortunate. Props for putting in the extra work though.

Perhaps you could quickly mini the Sunbeams Rack (from the Pencil sale) and we could use the "1700" valuation on the VF if the pencil sale includijg the VF is >3400

https://backpack.tf/suggestion/6529e2e5f7664f80720e514b - Rack has a sale @~1100

https://backpack.tf/suggestion/6529e569587d9845cb0e5020 - Beak @310

C9 Cowl Mini: (45.5)

Item 1

https://backpack.tf/item/2437831567

Sale 1

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198091173747#!/compare/1694131200/1695254400

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199084784906#!/compare/1694649600/1694736000

No clue

Item 2

https://backpack.tf/item/2253121374

Sale 2

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199073805105#!/compare/1690156800/1690329600

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198079098551#!/compare/1688342400/1695081600

Sunbeams Pugilist's Protector + Aces High Vintage Merryweather + 10 keys

Mini for the Sunbeams Pugilist's Protector 31.5 keys

Mini for the Aces High Vintage Merryweather 14 keys

31.5 + 14 + 10 = ~56 keys

Item 3

https://backpack.tf/item/2202720889

Sale 3

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198453530349#!/compare/1694476800/1694563200

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199085116273#!/compare/1694563200/1694649600

No clue

Mp.tf

https://marketplace.tf/items/tf2/465;5;u58

$100.00 / $1.96 = ~51 keys (Jul 19)

$99.99 / $2.03 = ~49 keys (Sep 10)

$99.99 / $2.02 = ~50 keys (Oct 6)

Total Sales

49, 50, 51, 56

https://imgur.com/a/niGMO5k

Just gonna range off lowest and take 42 - 49 keys as a mini

45.5 keys

That puts the original sale at

1100 + 1700 + 310 + 45.5 = 3156 keys, not over 3400 :cheems:

There is a work around for this tho, but it involves using mannco.store sales for the rack

Rack actually has a fair amt of sales there

https://imgur.com/a/WQJdqT5 - Rack Sales

https://imgur.com/a/H0d9N2C - Relevant key prices

$1866.38 / $1.85 = ~1009 keys

$2015.00 / $1.88 = ~1072 keys

$2800.00 / $1.90 = ~1474 keys

$1960.50 / $1.93 = ~1016 keys

Total Sales (Including the one in the current rack sugg)

1009, 1016, 1072, 1100, 1474

Taking 1000 - 1500 for the rack would then put it ~95 under the b/o amt. But that would involve mannco.store sales and using the weird 1500 sale from there which is higher than the unsold @1400 for 2 months

Even then the stormy beak also hinges on using buyers for a duped steaming rack due to the lack of sales for it, which is another pt of a potential undervalue

The hmoon cowl itself from the dbd vvf is also grossly undervalued by a few hundred as well, so this could potentially cap out at 3400 depending on how you see it

Either way, I'm too tired to think about this right now xwx

I have to give you major credits for working through this. I've gone through and accepted all the minis/micros that you've made for this. Obviously mannco sales on the rack aren't ideal.

If we look back at the Pencil sale, with the other items now in-date (and the cowl being around 40) it would mean the VF would have to be 1950 (3400-1450) for the sale to equal 3400.

Unfortunately, we are stuck with the viewfinder. But even a rough undervalued calculation shows the VF isn't far away from 1950, give or take.

I figured with the comments here, that 3400 is low. But we have one fully traceable sale at 3400 and honestly, one sale that is close enough to 3400 (right now it's lower but obviously we have undervalued a few things)

I'm happy taking this at 3400. I hugely appreciate the leg-work you have done on this. If some users are unhappy, then this can be resuggested if/when it resells.

Thanks Icycrevasse.