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Sale 1:
Sold for Aussie SMG (~11 keys) + Bucking Bronco Unusualifier
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198043625371#!/compare/1743552000/1743638400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198419871336#!/compare/1743120000/1743552000
https://backpack.tf/item/12819858962
= ~12 keys
Sale 2:
Sold to a bot for 11 keys + ~1 key in metal
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198419871336#!/compare/1743120000/1743552000 - Near ID: 15600764949
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199125443371#!/compare/1743552000/1743465600
https://gladiator.tf/sales?item=Frosted%20Decadence%20Undercover%20Brolly&at=2025-04-11T02:43:57.077Z - confirmed
https://backpack.tf/item/12819858962
Occurred after the Aussie SMG sale
= 12 keys
Sale 3:
Sold to a bot for 11 keys + ~1 key in metal
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198062747535#!/compare/1743724800/1743897600 - Near ID: 15609623571
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199059800460#!/compare/1743724800/1743811200
https://backpack.tf/item/12819858962
= 12 keys
Other Sales:
#1
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198128968043#!/compare/1741910400/1742428800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198100128531#!/compare/1720137600/1742083200
https://backpack.tf/item/12819858962
Untraceable, probably gambled. Gambled prior.
#2
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198100128531#!/compare/1720137600/1742083200 - won’t update
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198043625371#!/compare/1741651200/1742083200
https://backpack.tf/item/12819858962
Untraceable, likely bulk for keys
#3
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199407485932#!/compare/1738281600/1738454400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198326567308#!/compare/1738368000/1738454400
https://backpack.tf/item/12012997226
Untraceable/Bulk
#4
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199004754474#!/compare/1736985600/1742774400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198870819168#!/compare/1728086400/1740960000
https://backpack.tf/item/11992603569
Untraceable
#5
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198870819168#!/compare/1741737600/1742860800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198033286325#!/compare/1741651200/1741996800
https://gladiator.tf/sales?item=Frosted%20Decadence%20Undercover%20Brolly&at=2025-04-11T02:43:57.077Z - labelled as ~11 keys
https://backpack.tf/item/11992603569
Untraceable
#6
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198033286325#!/compare/1742601600/1742688000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198096558252#!/compare/1742601600/1742688000
https://backpack.tf/item/11992603569
Untraceable
#7
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199026390261#!/compare/1741737600/1741824000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198453530349#!/compare/1741737600/1741824000
https://backpack.tf/item/11940104088
Untraceable
#8
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198030119065#!/compare/1741564800/1741651200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199111073161#!/compare/1741478400/1741564800
https://backpack.tf/item/11925888703
Bulk
#9
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198080283111#!/compare/1741651200/1743724800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198080947868#!/compare/1743120000/1743638400
https://backpack.tf/item/11921685703
Untraceable
#10
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199059800460#!/compare/1737590400/1737676800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199148314072#!/compare/1717286400/1737763200
https://backpack.tf/item/11920779252
Untraceable
#11
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199148314072#!/compare/1737763200/1739664000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199059698603#!/compare/1739059200/1739145600
https://backpack.tf/item/11920779252
Untraceable, bulk-ish
#12
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199059698603#!/compare/1740355200/1740441600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199403343860#!/compare/1739750400/1740700800
https://backpack.tf/item/11920779252
Untraceable
#13
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199403343860#!/compare/1740700800/1740873600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198850178158#!/compare/1740614400/1740700800
https://backpack.tf/item/11920779252
Untraceable
#14
https://gladiator.tf/sales?item=Frosted%20Decadence%20Undercover%20Brolly&at=2025-04-11T02:43:57.077Z
https://backpack.tf/item/12133896400 - tradeback
Marketplace Sales:
https://marketplace.tf/items/tf2/31262;5;u226
$26.99, Jan 16th, Feb 15th, & March 15th
https://marketplace.tf/items/tf2/5021;6 - keys were:
$1.78, Jan 16th
$1.82, Feb 15th
$1.87, March 15th
26.99/1.78 = 15.163, rounds to 15 keys
26.99/1.82 = 14.83, rounds to 15 keys
26.99/1.87 = 14.433, rounds to 14 keys
Sellers:
https://i.imgur.com/MnP6exg.png
https://backpack.tf/item/11940104088 - ~13 keys
https://backpack.tf/item/11925888703 - ~13.3 keys
https://backpack.tf/item/12012997226 - 15 keys
https://i.imgur.com/b5i9Q8p.png - highest buyer at ~10.5 keys
Sales at:
12 (3x)
14 (marketplace)
15 (2x, marketplace)
The 1st sale at 12 may be a little higher, but considering the buyer re-sold to a bot shortly after, it should be fine to exclude it if so.
2 sellers at 13 keys, excluding the marketplace sales at 14 and 15.
Taking 12 flat.
I would just give this the full range. Feels a bit weird to only use bot buys
are you sure? generally not a fan of using marketplace sales in situations like this since they're usually always significantly higher than sellers. as for the buy order purchases, the bots have lowered to 10.5 keys after the fact, some of the bot owners re-selling to other bots shortly after getting it, as they most likely didn't think they'd get much more out of it themselves.
if it's worth it, i can look into the bronco unusualifier and see if it rounds to 13, and use that as a last resort for a high end, despite re-selling for ~12.
In situations like these, where its not even uncommon for them to succesfully sell higher even when classified sellers remain unsold at the same time. If that happens frequently, then it might simply indicate that classifieds get lower traffic. Ive seen plenty of cases where someone couldve bought the keys on MP to buy a hat from the classifieds such that they would have funds to spare, implying its not even the fees that inflate the values.
Especialy in cases where marketplace sales are also abundant, and the only other sales are bot dumps, it would be better to just fully reflect the market.
alright, i'll oblige, though i do feel we should be giving priority to the pure sales, and treat marketplace sales similar to how we treat item sales, especially considering the sellers of the items aren't getting the full amount the buyer is paying, though that's just bringing up the old debate of including fees again.