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m0rxx the Pan suggestor is BACK!
Again, huge thanks to Woifi for providing sales.
Please note, untracable sales have been excluded from this suggestion. Should you be able to provide proof of
additional sales, please post them in the comments below.
Now let's get to it!
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SALES!
Sale 1:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26247973
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198132960686?time=1436166000
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198132960686?time=1436252400
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198132960686?time=1436166000&compare=1436252400
Sold for Burning Hazmatten + Scorching Pencil Pusher + Scorching Bubble Pipe + Searing Mohawk + Scorching Lucky Shot + G Fetti Yellow Belt + sweets (~20.5 keys) + 10 in pure
This sale would require a mini for every. single. unusual. Using this sale as a supportive sale due to many pure sales.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26839705 Mohawk seller at 190 (1 month)
(390 + 345,5 + 270 + 190 + 157,5 + 37,5 + 20,5 + 10) * 0.9 = 1278.9
1300 keys SUPPORTIVE SALE
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Sale 2:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26435205
Sold for 1100 keys (mixed Max's and keys)
1100 keys
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Sale 3:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27060539
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26968308 Buyer
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198000754743?time=1442559600
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198000754743?time=1442646000
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198000754743?time=1442559600&compare=1442646000
Sold for 920 keys
920 keys OUTLIER
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Sale 4:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26699630
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197987703733?time=1438844400
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197987703733?time=1439190000
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197987703733?time=1439190000&compare=1438844400
Sold for Scorching Jefe + 400 keys
Used to price the Jefe: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55d7b698ba8d88ed448b45c3
CAN'T USE
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Sale 5:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26751432
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198053233649?time=1441004400
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198053233649?time=1441090800
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198053233649?time=1441090800&compare=1441004400
Sold for C. Heart Crone's + C. Heart Wraith + Holy Grail Relaxo + Knifestorm Wraith + Ghosts Crocleather + c9 Pencil Pusher
Limiting some of the prices to the seller's B/O's http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26932628
Taking a rough estimate on the Knifestorm Wraith due to lack of affecting for the sale value + lack of minies.
(800 + 175 + 142.5 + ~138 + 45 + 60) * 0.9 = 1224.45
1200 keys SUPPORTIVE SALE
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Sale 6:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26746263
Sold for 1000 keys pure IN A SINGLE DAY
1000 keys
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Sale 7:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26840146
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197970891690?time=1440918000
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197970891690?time=1441004400
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197970891690?time=1441004400&compare=1440918000
Sold for Harvest Crone's
No recent usable sales for a mini. Not using.
NOT USING
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Sale 8:
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198061402527?time=1438758000
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198061402527?time=1438844400
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198061402527?time=1438758000&compare=1438844400
Sold for a lot of outdated high-tier hats. Disregarding entirely due to lack of minies.
NOT USING
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Sale 9:
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198060976608?time=1439967600
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198060976608?time=1440313200
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198060976608?time=1439967600&compare=1440313200
Sold with '72 FBV (see mini)+ Eerie Lucha + 30 keys FOR Blizz Coffin + Burning Mancer (see mini) + C. Heart Boxcar (see mini)
X + 65 + 30 + 30 = 700 + 300 + 182
x = (1182 - 125) * 0.9 = 951.3
950 keys OUTLIER and hard to price.
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Eerie Lucha:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/25704277 unsold 30 (5 months)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26741926 unsold 31 (1 month)
Going with 30 :T
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'72 FBV:
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198045775820?time=1440054000
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198045775820?time=1440226800
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198045775820?time=1440054000&compare=1440226800
Seems to have sold for a duped electrostatic Phantom. Just taking 0.9 overpay.
(80 * 0.9) * 0.9 = ~65 keys
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Burning Mancer:
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198070018257?time=1441090800
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198070018257?time=1441177200
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198070018257?time=1441177200&compare=1441090800
Sold for 300 keys
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C. Heart Boxcar:
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198053233649?time=1441609200
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198053233649?time=1441695600
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198053233649?time=1441609200&compare=1441695600
Added sweets worth ~18 keys for GE Rotation ( http://backpack.tf/vote/id/55f51d03dea9e9bd458b4704 )
200 - 18 = 182 keys
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Sale 10:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26760334
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198001859176?time=1439881200
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198001859176?time=1439967600
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198001859176?time=1439881200&compare=1439967600
Sold for Sunbeams Muffs + Scorching Coldsnap
No recent sales on the Coldsnap so taking current price.
(600 + 695) * 0.9 = 1165.5
1150 keys
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sale 11:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26501925
Sold for 1000 keys pure
1000 keys
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Sale 12:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26410935
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198090535721?time=1437980400
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198090535721?time=1438239600
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198090535721?time=1438239600&compare=1437980400
712 keys + 8 pro aussies (~200 keys worth) + Self Made Key + FoD High-Five + Pro FN Strange Purple Range + Mallard Belt +
Vivid Tyro + spec. ks. S.Kritz
712 + (200 * 0.95) + 100 + 120 + 100 + 95 + 47.5 + 19
712 + 190 + 100 + 100 + ((120 + 95 + 47.5 + 19)*0.9) = 1370,35
1350 keys
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Australiums and kritz are calculated by lowest sellers on classifieds.
Taking current price on High-Five due to lack of recent sales.
Pro FN Strange Purple range sold for 100 keys: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26651117
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Sale 13:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26358747
Sold for 1200 keys
1200 keys
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Sale 14:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26800197
Sold for 1040 keys
1040 keys
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Sale 15:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26746261
Sold for 1190 keys + Aus Knife
1200 keys
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Sale 16:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26471041
Sold for 1200 keys
1200 keys
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sale 17:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26923336
Quicksold for 900 keys
900 keys OUTLIER
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Sale 18:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26962737
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198067575136?time=1441350000
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198067575136?time=1441436400
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198067575136?time=1441436400&compare=1441350000
Sold for GE KE + 100 keys
Should be used to update KE
NOT USING
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Sale 19:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26941533
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27003378 Buyer
Quicksold for 1030 keys
1030 keys
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Another point as to why 1100 keys is an outlier is the duped sales:
Duped Pan sales:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26746261 1190 + aussie knife
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26731716 https://gyazo.com/f2e8e47fc04816b829f3fdb70d2e5cc2 way above 1300
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26354849 https://gyazo.com/a930d7a8409ebce7df126fd33efb3a8f sold for around 1100, B/O at 1000 keys
https://gyazo.com/ce1050415de51238f962f3fe55dc5403 also around 1100 keys.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26601658 https://gyazo.com/731e0ad83af4c02b68490873d42ec0fe ~900 keys
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DAAAAAMN! 19 sales! And that's even excluding the ones I couldn't figure out! :o
Sales in chronological order:
Should be pretty clear that 1000-1100 are outliers.
However, can't exceed 1200 keys since there are numerous B/O's at 1200 keys:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26925322 1200
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27059154 1100 (Young)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/26941533 1200 (offered 1000)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27044427 1100 (young, has received offers around that as well, not bumped too frequently)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27060208 1200
Taking a final range of 1100-1200 keys.
Please leave constructive critism below! :D
yay I can vote on this. Anyway, what's the time table on the quicksells?
Either sold to a quickbuyer or sold within a week or so.
that sounds pretty reasonable.
Wow! A legit pan suggestion. Nice job 👌🏻
why is this longer then all my 800 suggestions together
upvote
i laughed at this one http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5598b440dea9e9876a8b45dddamn that pan streak, shame that Julia griefed it, although neat suggestion upvote.
I've sold three pans all for 1200 keys pure
They all took within a month to sell, with no hassle.
I paid 1500-1600 on my most recent one.
My most recent one was duped, and it sold for 1220 pure.
upgoat
If a duped one sold for 1220 pure (with which rounding is 1200) it might make anything below 1200 on this suggestion (the 1100 sale) an outlier. This could possibly be 1200 flat, unless that duped sale itself is an outlier.
I don't think a single sale should remove all the sales at a lower price, besides, there have been other duped pan sales below the 1220, as posted in my suggestion. (ctrl+f duped pan sales). one had a B/O of 1000, one sold for ~900, and others sold for 1100.
As Woifi said in the last suggestion:
"My point is, Pan market changes over time. At some point you can get 2 pans for 1000 keys easily, then you cant even get one for 1100. It's a constant back and forth and I think that the bp.tf price range should reflect that."
Ah okay sorry about that, I was suspecting that sale being a bit abnormal. Upvote :)
Good proof, upvoting.
UPDATE:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27059154 1100 (Young) has SOLD!
Quicksold for 1000 keys to Puddington
https://gyazo.com/2bdad377b6f449e3b7d8ad43bf8498a4
UPDATE!
I bought one myself for 35 keys + burning tyrant's + Holy Grail FBV + over $1000 in PayPal cash.
sale is still below 1100 and went in a single day.
http://backpack.tf/item/4138280836
UPDATE!
has also sold now
https://gyazo.com/aaa4f137f7bf16b284b59a87e9a30a33
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198066331075?time=1442818800
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198066331075?time=1442905200
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198066331075?time=1442818800&compare=1442905200
Too busy to check for minies atm, but with the current prices it looks like ~1200 keys after overpay, capped by the 1100 key B/O.